This is great info, she describes the indoctrination process perfectly... It was just like that for me (not born in, but a convert when I was around 20....)
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Post -Cult After Effects
by Seven ini have been reading alot of margaret lately-thought i'd share this.. seven.
post-cult after effects .
psychological manipulation, cult groups, sects, and new religious movements .
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Random thoughts of an ex-JW on a coffee break
by StarTrekAngel inlately i have been finding myself doing a lot of thinking.
not that i am smarter than the keurig coffee maker in my office, which lately has made me reevaluate the perception of my professional career.
somewhere along the way between winding down my relationship with my now ex-boss and starting a new one with my current boss, i noticed that the machine complaints with a message on a touchscreen….
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Muddy Waters
Cool thoughts.... I see the connections you've made... a life of almost repetitious boredom likened to a living hell, and then what sorts of circumstances would be a living hell, such as the fate of the woman you described.
Witnesses (and many other groups, tribes, nations, sports fans?) are trained to be so cold and dispassionate about the fates of anyone "not one of them" - the "other" - that a disconnection takes place in their minds which makes heinous acts acceptable, yet if a person really put themselves in the "other's" place, they might have to really stop and question what they are doing/ thinking/ believing.
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Courtroom Gaffes
by individuals wife incollection of courtroom gaffes - all true, unbelievably.... q: what is your date of birth?.
a: july 15th.
q: what year?.
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Muddy Waters
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! omg, I so needed a laugh today.... Found this and even though I've heard some of these before, these are great!!
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Famous Last Words
by Blueblades insooner or later it happens to all of us.the time comes for us to draw our last breath and pass from this life into the next.over the years history has recorded some fascinating "famous last words"...here are a few.. "i've never felt better".douglas fairbanks,sr.,actor.. "iam about to----or i am going to-----die;either expression is correct".dominique bouhours,french grammarian.. "don't let it end like this.tell them i said something.
"pancho villa,mexican revolutionary.. "all my possessions for a moment of time!
"elizabeth 1,queen of england.. "everybody has got to die,but i have always believed an exception would be made in my case.now what?
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Muddy Waters
Have gratitude... Recognize and appreciate your blessings...
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Jehovahs witnesses that believe its "The Truth" vs JW's who know it isn't
by Christian Gutierrez inhey guys!
what do you think is the percentage of jw's believe that it is the truth and the percentage of those who think it might be some false or all false??
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Muddy Waters
Vidiot, re: "negro man" -- I think this is a generational thing, as I grew up thinking it was a perfectly acceptable word as well. It became politically incorrect at some point and the new approved term was "colored" or "black" and now I don't think you're supposed to say even those words, you are now not to mention skin color in any way.
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Muddy Waters
The JW doctrine of shunning is so sad, so unnecessary... So very wrong.
"... By this they will know that you are my disciples.... " (for the love you show? By the hard line you take? By following man-made dictates from modern-day Pharisees?)
George Orwell wrote "1984", where peace was war, freedom was slavery, love was hate...
Gee, it sounds so familiar....
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interesting EX-CO AMA ( Ask Me Anything) over on exjwreddit
by Diogenesister inex-circuit overseer here, ama.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6usaky/excircuit_overseer_here_ama/.
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Thank you again, this is so interesting!!!
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Bye, Bye Love
by compound complex inheavy, heavy upon my failing heart weighs .
your aching need for my full and loving devotion.. i spend myself willingly on your behalf because,.
truly, your needs and wishes outstrip my own.. if i were young and wiry man, for you .
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Muddy Waters
:(
beautiful though so sad.... I have to believe that love endures somehow, written in our hearts, living in our very cells....
(I have been very very ill lately, and thoughts of my own mortality are very much with me and some days it is easier to contemplate than other days.... Your post has brought me to tears, because we really do think about 'those we leave behind'.... it really does all come down to the PEOPLE in our lives, the people we love and cherish, and the legacy we leave with them, how they think of us in their hearts.... )
May you, and they, be blessed.... (I do not mean that word in a religious sense any more, but in the sense of having goodness and gratitude.... )
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interesting EX-CO AMA ( Ask Me Anything) over on exjwreddit
by Diogenesister inex-circuit overseer here, ama.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6usaky/excircuit_overseer_here_ama/.
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Muddy Waters
Darkspilver, THANK YOU so much for posting this. I do not use or go to the Reddit forum, so really appreciate your doing this. Very interesting stuff!!
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Translating accurately is really f*&%$ing hard!
by TTWSYF ini wanted to relay an example that i heard about translating difficulties.
take the 5 word phrase.
"i didn't eat your sandwich".
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Muddy Waters
Great points!!!! Love this.
I remember reading a site which criticized the New World Translation, and one scholar said something like: "... this [result] is what happens when you translate using a dictionary (versus having an understanding of the language)!" *
Hopefully I have the link somewhere with the scholar's name ..... he was very critical of the NWT. I loved his review, lol. Will post back if I find it.
Stupid WT, believing they have produced the best Bible ever.
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* But as your post makes perfectly clear, knowing the language is not enough. Context is so important!